Post by java on May 8, 2015 22:37:18 GMT -5
Really convoluted contrivance to put all that together...is that really the story they had in mind when they wrote 6x23?
Not sure what to think of this at this point.....this old classmate from his prep school days suddenly comes out of the woodwork and demands that Castle come to his assistance?
While I have been looking forward to seeing how they were going to explain Castle's disappearance, not sure this particular story really works for me. I guess at this point I'd really like to know the rest of the story. From what we learned tonight, there has to be a lot more going on....what was so terrible that Castle asked to have his memories of it erased? How/where did he get shot? What was the deal with him camping out on that beach? How did he end up in that dinghy?
Storyline issues aside, I do love when Nathan gets to show his more serious side. While he is good at the comedy, he absolutely shines in the more dramatic episodes. And Stana played all the right notes with Kate, wanting to support him but at the same time trying to keep him grounded and not letting his imagination run away with him.
I also liked seeing Kate refer Castle to go see Dr. Burke; it's nice to see that she recognized his ability to help Castle try to understand what was going on in his head; she often didn't want to follow Dr. Burke's direction in regard to her own issues, but she apparently came to recognize that the guy is a good therapist.
CRAZY!!!!!!!! Now I want to know what Castle actually did for those two months. :-)
What clues from 6-23 did we miss? Rogan O'Leary? A Vegas Marriage? A Mobster? 6x23 was a loser. Sorry. It was a worthless episode and now I feel justified in feeling cheated that they didn't get married.What storyline? Rick saves the world? Couldn't they have done something better? And next week the two are separated again. Probably a great episode, but they are slowly moving these two away from each other. Is this why Kate will question her life in the season or series finale?
All I will say is, that yes it was a good episode. But yes, I was disappointed.
I am sorry you guys, but I wanted more...so much more. So now we have three episodes left.
I REALLY liked the way the whole family unit reacted to this. The scenes with Martha and Alexis expressing their concerns were great. I loved Martha seeking Kate out at the precinct and Kate assuring her that she'd be there for Castle through it all. I also loved Alexis confronting Castle and asking that he let her in. It was done very maturely and showcased the relationship of trust that Castle and Alexis have rebuilt. Towards the end, it was nice that we got a scene of Castle telling Martha and Alexis what he could.
Best of all was the way Kate handled everything, from the morning at the loft when she pushed for Castle to be honest with her and she recommended Dr. Burke, to the emotional ending when she came rushing into the loft and then expressed her satisfaction with the new knowledge of what happened. Through it all, Kate was supportive of her husband but also tried to keep an open mind to various possibilities.
I found that brief exchange between Espo and Castle to be very revealing. Espo tells Castle to his face that he doubts his story about having no memory of those 2 months and I think that goes a long way towards explaining the attitude that Espo's had towards Castle at various times this season. We know how loyal Espo is to Kate and I think it may go back to Espo feeling Castle really did leave her at the altar. I wonder if we'll see any change in that attitude now that Espo knows it was real.
I thought Nathan did a fine job with his facial expressions tonight. There were a lot of those silent moments when he had to show his emotions purely through his face and he nailed it every time.
There's still a boatload of unanswered questions - How did Castle get shot? Why did all of this take 2 months? How did Castle end up in the dinghy? Why was Castle in the tent on the beach? Why was Castle in Montreal? What does this have to do with the money drop we saw Castle make on the video? Why did Castle make the videos for Kate and Martha and Alexis saying goodbye? What happened in Hollander's Woods? I felt this answered the part of the mystery concerning why Castle was abducted on his wedding day but it sure doesn't explain 2 months if that terror attack was imminent and it also doesn't seem anywhere near bad enough that Castle would have asked to have it erased from his memory. I wonder if the finale will clear all of this up or if we'll just get another chunk. I guess, if it means a season 8, I'm in favor of just getting another chunk!
I agree with all of nathanfan1's questions. I would add why didn't the CIA just ask him to help? Seems like it would have been much easier. Also, if time was so crucial what reason could there possibly have been to go to NYC (a good two hour drive from the Hamptons and possibly more) for a money drop?
And once more, please stop with the lone wolf plot device. It is becoming laughable.
Most episodes I come to like better over time. Not sure that is going to be the case with this episode.
Apr 21, 2015 9:54:40 GMT -5 @castlebonesrandi said:
One of the worst written episodes of Castle yet.
When the future of the show, actors, et al are decided, perhaps it will make more sense, but right now I still feel like there really is no clear focus...they're trying to cover all the bases, which is understandable to a point, but I don't like this feeling of being jerked around, and I trust NOTHING that the showrunners say about future episodes and what will be happening. Season 8? Stana? Marlowe? Amann? Derrick Storm? Philip Marlowe?
Where's Paul Harvey?....I want the rest of the story.
Whew, that was kind of negative...sorry, but I am so disappointed at the wasted talent and opportunities.
When the future of the show, actors, et al are decided, perhaps it will make sore sense, but right now I still feel like there really is no clear focus...they're trying to cover all the bases, which is understandable to a point, but I don't like this feeling of being jerked around, and I trust NOTHING that the showrunners say about future episodes and what will be happening. Season 8? Stana? Marlowe? Amann? Derrick Storm? Philip Marlowe?
Where's Paul Harvey?....I want the rest of the story.
Whew, that was kind of negative...sorry, but I am so disappointed at the wasted talent and opportunities.
I got the impression that David Amann was told he had one episode to tell his 3 season ark before he left and he tried to jam in as much information as he could in 42 minutes. Yes we did get kind of an explanation for his missing time but to me we were left with more questions than answers.
Yeah I still think they were wrong to not give the fandom the wedding then snatch Rick up or just ask him. He would have helped out and Kate would have gone along too if it meant helping so many people.
I think they might need more than one season to solve this mystery. Unless we get a book with answers I doubt we will every know what happened.
I got the impression that David Amann was told he had one episode to tell his 3 season ark before he left and he tried to jam in as much information as he could in 42 minutes.
I think at this point putting this whole mythology (a word I hate now) arc into the dinghy and setting it adrift in the Bermuda triangle might be in order.
.......... okay...... Got something....
I enjoyed the family moments, to a degree, and, as always, stellar acting.
There.
It'd be nice, at this stage of the game, if they had some say in the process. At least over their characters and the two of them as a couple.
Just thinking out loud.
Apr 21, 2015 9:54:40 GMT -5 @castlebonesrandi said:
One of the worst written episodes of Castle yet.l Best one sentence review.
"The Vanishing" is one of the worse contrivances I've seen for a TV show and I hope this is the end of it. Don't care to know more details, don't flesh it out, don't ever mention it again. Note to future writers and showrunners: never, ever, ever, ever use amnesia as a plot device. For those currently employed, immediately fire anybody in the room who even dares whisper it.
7x20 is very much like 7x06, "Time of Our Lives" (aka The Blue Screen Wedding). We get Caskett moments, family time, and all the warm fuzzies we expect but waiting at the end is a rushed job to cross an item off the Castle To Do chores list. Wedding? Check. The Vanishing? Done, check. Why? Because of everything we've been through together. 6 years! 6 years we were waiting right here for that perfect Castle wedding. 6 years waiting for them to open their eyes to see that we're still right here begrudgingly waiting for them to stop with all of the stupid delayings tactics.
But, what we got was 6x23, 7x01, and 7x02 and the promise of a new, mysterious arc, and 3 million viewers fell off the side of the building never to be seen again. By the time the reality sunk in at ABC, episodes were already aired, completed, in production, or in post production and a rush was placed on sticking a wedding in somewhere to appease the fans while the explanation and justification got booted to near the end of the season/series.
"Sleeper" isn't an episode. It's the after party cleanup that nobody wanted to do because of the botched practical joke that didn't go so well. So, in a way I LOVED this "episode" because it's done, finished, dead.
I can go wash my hands now.
It'd be nice, at this stage of the game, if they had some say in the process. At least over their characters and the two of them as a couple.
Just thinking out loud.
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Love this!!!!
"Sleeper" isn't an episode. It's the after party cleanup that nobody wanted to do because of the botched practical joke that didn't go so well. So, in a way I LOVED this "episode" because it's done, finished, dead.
I can go wash my hands now.
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I truly hope you're right, but I'm not so sure based on what's transpired so far.
l Best one sentence review.
"The Vanishing" is one of the worse contrivances I've seen for a TV show and I hope this is the end of it. Don't care to know more details, don't flesh it out, don't ever mention it again. Note to future writers and showrunners: never, ever, ever, ever use amnesia as a plot device. For those currently employed, immediately fire anybody in the room who even dares whisper it.
7x20 is very much like 7x06, "Time of Our Lives" (aka The Blue Screen Wedding). We get Caskett moments, family time, and all the warm fuzzies we expect but waiting at the end is a rushed job to cross an item off the Castle To Do chores list. Wedding? Check. The Vanishing? Done, check. Why? Because of everything we've been through together. 6 years! 6 years we were waiting right here for that perfect Castle wedding. 6 years waiting for them to open their eyes to see that we're still right here begrudgingly waiting for them to stop with all of the stupid delayings tactics.
But, what we got was 6x23, 7x01, and 7x02 and the promise of a new, mysterious arc, and 3 million viewers fell off the side of the building never to be seen again. By the time the reality sunk in at ABC, episodes were already aired, completed, in production, or in post production and a rush was placed on sticking a wedding in somewhere to appease the fans while the explanation and justification got booted to near the end of the season/series.
"Sleeper" isn't an episode. It's the after party cleanup that nobody wanted to do because of the botched practical joke that didn't go so well. So, in a way I LOVED this "episode" because it's done, finished, dead.
I can go wash my hands now.
When ABC showed the Castle was getting 12 million viewers last year that included L +7 data. On the very real chance that the 3 million number was hyperbole, please accept my literal apology for this post.
When ABC showed the Castle was getting 12 million viewers last year that included L +7 data. On the very real chance that the 3 million number was hyperbole, please accept my literal apology for this post.
I got the impression that David Amann was told he had one episode to tell his 3 season ark before he left and he tried to jam in as much information as he could in 42 minutes. Yes we did get kind of an explanation for his missing time but to me we were left with more questions than answers.
Yeah I still think they were wrong to not give the fandom the wedding then snatch Rick up or just ask him. He would have helped out and Kate would have gone along too if it meant helping so many people.
.......... okay...... Got something....
I enjoyed the family moments, to a degree, and, as always, stellar acting.
There.
And, it's interesting how so many have not posted to this thread that usually do. Proof that if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it.
Since 6 x 23.... I still keep asking myself. "What were they thinking...
?"I need to let it go.
I hope Stana signs, and we can move forward. I want my old Castle back. Not sorry.
And, it's interesting how so many have not posted to this thread that usually do. Proof that if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it.
Since 6 x 23.... I still keep asking myself. "What were they thinking...
?"I keep pretending it never happened. I agree I want my Castle back.