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Post by fantasynovelreader on Nov 10, 2015 13:01:00 GMT -5
I will admit, I enjoyed this one. It wasn't overly great but, it did have me laughing for the first time in a long time, so thats a start. With that said, it still felt off for me at the same time.
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Post by angie1379 on Nov 10, 2015 17:10:22 GMT -5
I feel like a broken record: Any other season, this would have been a really good episode. But with everything tainted by the specter of the separation, I just can't invest. It all feels like gimmick and filler until we can get to some actual resolution. I'm biding my time, treading water, phoning it in, existing in some weird half-life, and generally, barely hanging in there until we get to the episodes that will actually mean something. Forgive me for completely discarding one of the most oft-quoted axioms of life, but this whole storyline is soooo not about the journey and is definitely all out the destination. It's just so obvious they set the storyline in motion with the premiere, and then said, "Okay, we need to drag this out until Thanksgiving, now go figure out how."
Don't they understand, no one give a flying hoot about the cases when the heart of the show is on life support. It's like we're all supposed to "ooo and aww" over clever plots and impressive guest stars, and somehow look past the fact that the central relationship is broken. I can just hear a doctor saying to a patient, "Look how nicely I stitched up that scratch on your arm," and the patient replying, "Yeah, but what about the axe that's still impaling my chest!?"
As for this particular installment of "How do we kill time until the fall finale," I honestly enjoyed Slaughter. He was funny, smart, and as promised, had some surprising and intriguing sides to him that actually struck me as plausible. People surprise us -- even people like Slaughter. As Castle so aptly exclaimed, "Who are you?!" Lol!
But the best thing Slaughter told Castle was, "If you really love that broad, you figure out what the problem is, and you do something." The episode needed to end on that bit of advice instead of implying that Castle doesn't know how to put his wife's needs first. Again, filler dialogue with no substantive meaning or relevancy.
What I didn't like were Ryan and Espo. I know Espo has always been the last to jump on any bandwagon Castle was driving, but I expected more faith from Ryan. He's been pretty willing to entertain many of Castle ideas that were a lot wilder than a cop being innocent of murder. Not to mention, they sure jumped on the idea of Slaughter, a fellow NYPD detective, being their murderer with nary a second thought or benefit of the doubt. He fit their narrative, and they were not about to deviate from it. Given their stubborn refusal to listen, I can hardly blame Castle for lying and taking off. There was nothing about their demeanor that suggested a willingness to hear Castle and Slaughter out. However, the whole scenario of Ryan and Espo tensely working together, combined with them working against Castle, with Kate MIA, just created a whole series of unfamiliar dynamics that didn't seem true to any of the characters. Except maybe Slaughter.
And what's up with Martha telling Castle to give Kate time. What the heck has he been doing the past two months? And as has been pointed out elsewhere, the affect Johanna's murder had on Kate is old news. Yes it changed her, but it hasn't changed her in the past year. It's not the change that has caused this separation. Of all Martha's advice over the years, this, again, felt like filler.
As an isolated episode, I enjoyed Castle and Slaughter working together. I liked the case -- with the exception of the killer himself serving up his own connection to the robbery by glibly admitting he used to work on Wall Street. Really? You'd think he'd want to keep that quiet, given his connection to the only other two people involved. but i digerss. The case was fun, and the kid was a true bright spot. I think he'll be good for Slaughter, and vice versa.
Yes, I missed Kate, but I've missed her all season, so it wasn't all that different. What I didn't miss were the awkward exchanges and pitifully longing glances between her and Castle.
I've tuned in week after week for seven years -- since the freaking pilot -- and this is the hardest the show has ever been to watch. And that includes the season three mess with Josh, the post-"47 Seconds" fiasco, and even the disaster at the end of Season 6.
For crying out loud, I just want my Castle back! That's it! Why is that too much to ask?
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Post by shutterbug5269 on Nov 10, 2015 17:15:40 GMT -5
There is just something inherently wrong that this was the most entertaining episode all season, and Kate Beckett was nowhere to be seen.
There was more spark and crackle between Castle and Slaughter in THIS ONE EPISODE than there has been between Caskett since the premiere. Where is that spark that the showrunners promised to put back in? If this is it, then something is inherently lacking here.
Just saying.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 9:18:35 GMT -5
Haven't watched yet. Don't know when I will.
The love story; the journey is why I watch Castle. If I felt this separation, this.....disconnection.... was justified, I'd be waiting with baited breath until they were together again. Instead, I feel like I'm wasting my time on a contrived plot device to "keep things fresh". It's not fresh, or entertaining. It's rotten.
For those who watch Castle without expectations of any kind on the relationship front, and can enjoy each episode as a stand-alone hour of entertainment, or for the COTW, I applaud you. I"m happy for you. Have at it. Me? I feel grief & loss. Like I've lost something wonderful. Something that brought me so much pleasure every week. I longed for Castle Mondays and spent the past four years of my life asking, "Is it Monday yet?" Now.....meh.
No, I'm not a writer, no, it's not "my" show, no, they didn't ask me. But seriously.... even friends of mine who are casual viewers are asking me, "WTH is up with Castle?!?" Yes. It's true. After XX aired, I had a friend actually text me, at 11:00 p.m. EST, and said, "Castle? REALLY?" ...
Hate to come here and voice displeasure. But I really can't believe this.
What were they thinking?
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Post by tycho657 on Nov 11, 2015 10:00:23 GMT -5
I have found more and more people who say they like Castle have been watching the reruns only. Most have no idea about what is happening this year. It tells me that they have lost fans who use to watch live.
Perhaps they are making enough from the reruns they don't care about live numbers anymore?
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Post by ddcnj on Nov 11, 2015 10:48:53 GMT -5
I t6ook this for what it was, a stand alone to fill in the week that Stana wasn't available.
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Post by CF40 on Nov 11, 2015 11:53:52 GMT -5
Haven't watched yet. Don't know when I will. The love story; the journey is why I watch Castle. If I felt this separation, this.....disconnection.... was justified, I'd be waiting with baited breath until they were together again. Instead, I feel like I'm wasting my time on a contrived plot device to "keep things fresh". It's not fresh, or entertaining. It's rotten. For those who watch Castle without expectations of any kind on the relationship front, and can enjoy each episode as a stand-alone hour of entertainment, or for the COTW, I applaud you. I"m happy for you. Have at it. Me? I feel grief & loss. Like I've lost something wonderful. Something that brought me so much pleasure every week. I longed for Castle Mondays and spent the past four years of my life asking, "Is it Monday yet?" Now.....meh. No, I'm not a writer, no, it's not "my" show, no, they didn't ask me. But seriously.... even friends of mine who are casual viewers are asking me, "WTH is up with Castle?!?" Yes. It's true. After XX aired, I had a friend actually text me, at 11:00 p.m. EST, and said, "Castle? REALLY?" ... Hate to come here and voice displeasure. But I really can't believe this. What were they thinking? Haven't watched either. Heck, just got around to watching The Nose on Saturday morning. I don't think this separation is anyway near to being over and unfortunately the show may be over before the separation is. <JMO> Anyway, it's clear to me that I am mentally done with Castle and that makes me so sad. It wasn't supposed to end this way nor did it have to. Will I keep watching? Probably but not with any kind of anticipation or expectations, only out of some sort of misguided or strange sense loyalty I seem to have. |
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Post by java on Nov 11, 2015 13:07:50 GMT -5
Haven't watched yet. Don't know when I will. The love story; the journey is why I watch Castle. If I felt this separation, this.....disconnection.... was justified, I'd be waiting with baited breath until they were together again. Instead, I feel like I'm wasting my time on a contrived plot device to "keep things fresh". It's not fresh, or entertaining. It's rotten. For those who watch Castle without expectations of any kind on the relationship front, and can enjoy each episode as a stand-alone hour of entertainment, or for the COTW, I applaud you. I"m happy for you. Have at it. Me? I feel grief & loss. Like I've lost something wonderful. Something that brought me so much pleasure every week. I longed for Castle Mondays and spent the past four years of my life asking, "Is it Monday yet?" Now.....meh. No, I'm not a writer, no, it's not "my" show, no, they didn't ask me. But seriously.... even friends of mine who are casual viewers are asking me, "WTH is up with Castle?!?" Yes. It's true. After XX aired, I had a friend actually text me, at 11:00 p.m. EST, and said, "Castle? REALLY?" ... Hate to come here and voice displeasure. But I really can't believe this. What were they thinking? Haven't watched either. Heck, just got around to watching The Nose on Saturday morning. I don't think this separation is anyway near to being over and unfortunately the show may be over before the separation is. <JMO> Anyway, it's clear to me that I am mentally done with Castle and that makes me so sad. It wasn't supposed to end this way nor did it have to. Will I keep watching? Probably but not with any kind of anticipation or expectations, only out of some sort of misguided or strange sense loyalty I seem to have. I'm in a holding pattern with Castle and looking forward to Blindspot. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 14:38:28 GMT -5
Haven't watched yet. Don't know when I will. The love story; the journey is why I watch Castle. If I felt this separation, this.....disconnection.... was justified, I'd be waiting with baited breath until they were together again. Instead, I feel like I'm wasting my time on a contrived plot device to "keep things fresh". It's not fresh, or entertaining. It's rotten. For those who watch Castle without expectations of any kind on the relationship front, and can enjoy each episode as a stand-alone hour of entertainment, or for the COTW, I applaud you. I"m happy for you. Have at it. Me? I feel grief & loss. Like I've lost something wonderful. Something that brought me so much pleasure every week. I longed for Castle Mondays and spent the past four years of my life asking, "Is it Monday yet?" Now.....meh. No, I'm not a writer, no, it's not "my" show, no, they didn't ask me. But seriously.... even friends of mine who are casual viewers are asking me, "WTH is up with Castle?!?" Yes. It's true. After XX aired, I had a friend actually text me, at 11:00 p.m. EST, and said, "Castle? REALLY?" ... Hate to come here and voice displeasure. But I really can't believe this. What were they thinking? Haven't watched either. Heck, just got around to watching The Nose on Saturday morning. I don't think this separation is anyway near to being over and unfortunately the show may be over before the separation is. <JMO> Anyway, it's clear to me that I am mentally done with Castle and that makes me so sad. It wasn't supposed to end this way nor did it have to. Will I keep watching? Probably but not with any kind of anticipation or expectations, only out of some sort of misguided or strange sense loyalty I seem to have. This is how low my OCD meter would be presently: I did not miss Castle during the hiatus, and I didn't even know, for sure, if Monday night was when it was returning. Nor did I know which episode would air. I could, mind you, have researched, and been in the know. I just didn't care. Heart-breaking. Not going to keep coming here and voicing my displeasure. My silence says it all. Like Ang said, I just want my show back. And I didn't think it needed "fixing" or "shook up". A writer and his muse evolved to a writer and his captain wife. There was a lot of potential in that. Not even a fan of the PI situation. There was enough "fresh" and "new" in watching them explore married life together while still trying to be together at the 12th with her being captain. Oh well. I'm just rambling now. Preaching to the choir, probably. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 14:42:44 GMT -5
Holding pattern. Exactly. And my anticipation lies with Arrow presently.
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Post by shutterbug5269 on Nov 11, 2015 16:59:47 GMT -5
Holding pattern. Exactly. And my anticipation lies with Arrow presently. I'm watching Supergirl on CBS and enjoying it immensely |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 17:24:37 GMT -5
Holding pattern. Exactly. And my anticipation lies with Arrow presently. I'm watching Supergirl on CBS and enjoying it immensely Maybe I'll get to it one day. Also interested in checking out Code Black & my hubs watches Blacklist. May need to binge watch to catch up on that. So little time I have budgeted for TV. |
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Post by shutterbug5269 on Nov 11, 2015 17:29:23 GMT -5
I'm watching Supergirl on CBS and enjoying it immensely Maybe I'll get to it one day. Also interested in checking out Code Black & my hubs watches Blacklist. May need to binge watch to catch up on that. So little time I have budgeted for TV. It helps that Supergirl is on Monday nights before Castle that's for sure. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 10:06:33 GMT -5
Maybe I'll get to it one day. Also interested in checking out Code Black & my hubs watches Blacklist. May need to binge watch to catch up on that. So little time I have budgeted for TV. It helps that Supergirl is on Monday nights before Castle that's for sure. I do like superhero entertainment. Would not dismiss trying it one day. |
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Post by shutterbug5269 on Nov 12, 2015 12:28:23 GMT -5
It helps that Supergirl is on Monday nights before Castle that's for sure. I do like superhero entertainment. Would not dismiss trying it one day. Melissa Benoist is a treasure. Equal parts sweet quirky and tough. |
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