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Post by castle88 on Oct 21, 2015 14:29:34 GMT -5
My question is...What happened to Rick Castle? He's the mystery novelist who always wants to know the story. So why is it that his wife walks out and he's not interested in that story? He's not asking questions. He's not trying to figure out why. He's simply decided that if he can prove to her that he's a brilliant investigator that she'll magically come back. I've watched seven plus seasons of this show. Why do I feel like I know the character better than the current writing team? Am I the only one? This is my biggest issue. Those that respond to this will say that he is focused on his own actions because he has insecurity from his past relationships and that when one is told it's not you the inclination is to think that is BS and it is you. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 14:45:41 GMT -5
Watched yesterday.... Here are my comments. FWIW.
Loved seeing Kate at the crime scene, as always. She is a very involved captain, as Gates & Monty were rarely there. Her authority does appear to be stepped up a notch, but deep down, she's still that lead detective that everyone loved and respected.
Mia was adorable and hilarious in her own special way. A certain charm about her that I couldn't help but like. And I love how Castle saw it, too.
Ryan.... omg. All of it. And the shooting his bum part at the end (nice bum Seamus) was over the top.
ROLLED when Castle got "decontaminated" and Mia looked on amused. lol...
Interesting that Haley is appearing to take Castle's place to a degree. In being another part of the team to investigate as well as taking Castle's place at the interrogation table. Meh.
When Castle was explaining that the man deserves justice (the victim), he sounded just like Kate. What happened to wanting to know the story, Castle? Interesting.
Tired of seeing Castle try to "win Kate back"... really? Trying to "win" someone is like forced love. It's no love at all. Just walk away, Castle. If she comes back, well, there you go....
Kate's character regression (as I believe she can be "in character" with this behavior) is nauseating.
I found myself grinning like an idiot in scenes with Martha. She is the only one that remains unchanged and steadfast.
Best line of the night was by Castle, when he told Mia the world is a better place with her running around in it. That man melts my heart when he says things like that. I have a feeling Nathan is that way, too.
Anyway, I'm hanging in, but I am not enjoying this ride. I can find plenty of positive to say about any epsiode, and find a lot to really love, but this ridiculous separation is like a black cloud hanging over me and darkening everything good.
I'm sorry.... I want to be susie happy sunshine, but it's just breaking my heart. This was my beloved show and feel like it has fallen to pieces. I could even stand the Josh arc in Season 3, nothing really bothered me, but I just feel like the trust factor by the powers that be has been irreparable. Once we had the Season 4 finale - I was trusting in ALWAYS! We probably will still come back to ALWAYS, but it has been so tainted. Maybe Shakespeare was right. The root of all heartache is expectation. I was so sure this show was going to be the modern day Hart to Hart.... unfortunately, I probably will not ever learn to not expect. Hope runs eternal.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 15:05:09 GMT -5
My question is...What happened to Rick Castle? He's the mystery novelist who always wants to know the story. So why is it that his wife walks out and he's not interested in that story? He's not asking questions. He's not trying to figure out why. He's simply decided that if he can prove to her that he's a brilliant investigator that she'll magically come back. I've watched seven plus seasons of this show. Why do I feel like I know the character better than the current writing team? Am I the only one? OMG. I JUST made this very comment on my epilogue post. LoL! About Rick wanting to know the story... lol... I feel that the characters can still be "in character" but take on traits of the others. We, as married people, as friends, as co-workers... we all do that. Rick quoted to Mia about wanting justice for the victim, Kate's line, but I think he was still wanting to find the story in all of it. But his motives lately are all tainted by trying to "win Kate back" and beating either her or the boys to the punch in finding evidence, or twists, in the cases. He's acting out of desperation. Anything he can do to get himself a ticket into the 12th, or into Kate's life, is fair game. |
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Post by castle88 on Oct 23, 2015 18:19:01 GMT -5
Finally watched. The most disappointing thing is that a perfectly fun filler episode left me feeling meh because my investment in the show is decreased. The one issue I had is that I don't see the humor in accidentally shooting someone.
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Post by motowncf on Oct 26, 2015 19:29:22 GMT -5
Well, at least this is a positive.....even if it's not about Castle & Beckett In TVLine's Performer of the week article.... tvline.com/2015/10/24/aya-cash-youre-the-worst-performance-season-2/HONORABLE MENTION | It’s not easy to make an impression with a one-off role on a TV procedural, playing a witness, suspect or whatever. But Castle’s Stephnie Weir was, as one TVLine reader put it, a breath of fresh air. As Mia “The Nose” Laszlo, a woman afflicted with hyperosmia, the MADtv alum greatly entertained us with her sharp delivery of repulsed grimaces, salty barbs (“You should change your name to Captain Obvious!”), insightful whiffs of evidence and, yes, even advice for lovelorn Rick. (Having long used her gift to help perfumeries put “love” in a bottle, she reassured the P.I., “What you and Beckett have [is] the genuine article.”) As a perfect marriage of guest-starring role and actress, Weir was, in a word, scent-sational. |
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Post by ddcnj on Nov 1, 2015 12:44:07 GMT -5
I was out of town, missed episode 3, then hadn't had a chance to catch up on 3-5 until last night. I agree with everyone that they need to end this separation ASAP. But looking at these episodes beyond that problem, I liked this one more than the other 2. Maybe because I enjoy both NY Theater and Fine Art, especially Impressionism, and have been interested in the hunt for & recovery of art that went missing in WWII since seeing a picture of the Monument Men unit with some of their finds in history class.
On the Ryan/Espo business, at least TPTB finally acknowledged there are Sgts. in the NYPD. Surprised it was Espo who passed, just because Ryan has always seemed the more bookish of the pair. Maybe he was over confidant or just too stressed. Maybe he'll do something that will earn a promotion to Detective 1st Grades are merit not test based), which would at least help his $ issues. And I think the whole who's team leader was handled better this way than the co-leader business in the last Nicki Heat book.
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Post by kman on Nov 1, 2015 15:07:50 GMT -5
My question is...What happened to Rick Castle? He's the mystery novelist who always wants to know the story. So why is it that his wife walks out and he's not interested in that story? He's not asking questions. He's not trying to figure out why. He's simply decided that if he can prove to her that he's a brilliant investigator that she'll magically come back. I've watched seven plus seasons of this show. Why do I feel like I know the character better than the current writing team? Am I the only one? OMG. I JUST made this very comment on my epilogue post. LoL! About Rick wanting to know the story... lol... I feel that the characters can still be "in character" but take on traits of the others. We, as married people, as friends, as co-workers... we all do that. Rick quoted to Mia about wanting justice for the victim, Kate's line, but I think he was still wanting to find the story in all of it. But his motives lately are all tainted by trying to "win Kate back" and beating either her or the boys to the punch in finding evidence, or twists, in the cases. He's acting out of desperation. Anything he can do to get himself a ticket into the 12th, or into Kate's life, is fair game. Yes....what has happened to Rick wanting to know the answers to the questions that unlock the secrets and give us the story line we are so desperately trying to understand? He needs a poker game with his buds. He needs to get away from Kate and his family for a night or day or two and think this thing through. He needs a call from Smith and a lecture on how if she keeps this up, she is dead meat on the table for the vultures to feast on. He needs his step mother to pay a visit, IF THAT IS WHAT SHE REALLY IS, and fill him in. Since when does Beckett get to know step mom in law and Rick doesn't. AND WHY DIDN'T DAD TELL HIM? Again, inconsistent writing with no twist as of yet. Rick needs something to jump start his engine and open his eyes. He accepts Kate for who she is, that is perfectly clear to me. It is decent and honorable. He told us that on the proposal episode. She couldn't understand that he was telling her he loved her. She doesn't share and does not play well with others. I am almost at the point of saying that she is blind to the truth , which she doesn't even accept anymore. It's all in the name of the "Greater Good". She must know what she is doing to him, but we see it in her eyes and actions and perceived stubbornness as collateral damage in a Bond type atmosphere that embraces the dark side of humanity. She couldn't read him, he came from out of left field with the proposal....this is what he does. He attacks and embraces the character which leads you to the story. He gets into their minds, so why can't he get into Kates? He hasn't done that lately. He is not looking at things as a writer would. He too is blind to the truth, only he doesn't know what he did for his two months away from 6x23. His judgement is cloudy. He can't sleep, he washes his hair with shaving cream, etc. He must feel that if he truly accepts who and what she is, that he must not push her and then she will find her way back home. Again, in my eyes, honorable and decent, he loves her like a house on fire. He hasn't strayed and looked for Bimbets, in short, he has been a good little boy. Well Rick....no one is saying beat Kate over the head with a club and drag her ass home. But WE are looking for a little fire in the belly. We are looking for the mind boggling non-verbal communication that could rival a nuclear meltdown. The Yin and Yang, the magnetic push and pull that makes them run from love but then pulls them back cause you can't stand it anymore. The fear is trumped by a heart on fire. You know,like you used to do, without speaking a word. Pure sensual Magic!!! Remember....A glance that would stop her dead in her tracks and attack the heart and get it pumping. "YOU SMELL LIKE CHERRIES " is in there somewhere and we are waiting for it. You know she cannot resist you. Mia told us that in her grand soliloquy at the end of "The Nose". You can't change her, but you can seduce her, you can't own her, but you can rock her world, you can't reason with her, but you can knock her silly with your mind and the way it works and processes things. She is your wife...REMIND HER OF THAT. In short, go to the Hamptons, Spend time with that loser Slaughter, work your connections and make it damn impossible for her to think of anything else but you. Disneyland is not just a state of mind. You need that special someone to experience it with. Rick, you are much more in control of the situation than you realize. Go back to writing the story and the rest will fall into place. Bring her home and solve this damn case. |
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Post by tycho657 on Nov 1, 2015 18:27:26 GMT -5
Well stated kman! As much as I don't like Slaughter hopefully he will say or do something to wake Rick up and have him finally go to Kaye and demand to know what the h.... Is going on??
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2015 4:48:12 GMT -5
The review of Joy D' Angelo + (http://www.tvovermind.com/reviews/castle-season-8-episode-5-review-the-nose) has convinced me that most of you were right. and more viewers tend to think so. After Season 7 they have lost 2 million viewers already.. My English is not good enough to "hear" all the subtleties and to understand 'what's happening' immediately . I saw XY en XX on the Dutch TV (with translation ) and then you hear/see things from what you think , "Why has Castle not really listened to all the messages he heard about Kate  ? He knows what Bracken said about her, he knows of Lokstat , he is himself tortured and was on the point of being shot dead and his wife knowing for ages, it is ridiculous that now he wants to win her love back. He knows her anyway.... Bad writing, bad planning and bad humor are now very common. When you follow Stana on twitter she's still busy with her project. No reactions whatever about the unrest regarding the new season. I have watched Castle for six years now, so I'm used to unbelievable stories and strange twists and strange explanations..... so I will stay watching....till the end. |
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Post by castle88 on Nov 2, 2015 7:26:30 GMT -5
The review of Joy D' Angelo + (http://www.tvovermind.com/reviews/castle-season-8-episode-5-review-the-nose) has convinced me that most of you were right. and more viewers tend to think so. After Season 7 they have lost 2 million viewers already.. .... Just a quick note about the ratings in case some don't follow the stings discussion. I don't think the drop in numbers has anything to do with the show runners or the storyline. Castle's ratings have been basically the same for every episode this year. The premiere was only .1 higher in the demo and had a couple of hundred thousand more viewers. Those are smaller drop offs than in previous years. In fact, given the amount of people on line that don't like the story arc, I would have expected a big drop off. That has not happend. One other ratings point. The drop off in viewers is less important than the demo numbers. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2015 11:38:34 GMT -5
The review of Joy D' Angelo + (http://www.tvovermind.com/reviews/castle-season-8-episode-5-review-the-nose) has convinced me that most of you were right. and more viewers tend to think so. After Season 7 they have lost 2 million viewers already.. .... Just a quick note about the ratings in case some don't follow the stings discussion. I don't think the drop in numbers has anything to do with the show runners or the storyline. Castle's ratings have been basically the same for every episode this year. The premiere was only .1 higher in the demo and had a couple of hundred thousand more viewers. Those are smaller drop offs than in previous years. In fact, given the amount of people on line that don't like the story arc, I would have expected a big drop off. That has not happend. One other ratings point. The drop off in viewers is less important than the demo numbers. I follow the ratings on en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Castle_episodes. There the ratings go down after season 7. But do I miss something? I found them disturbing. I wonder what the ratings worldwide are. And regarding Castle..how do the actors think about the storyline? Has Nathan Fillion watched XX? How could he play the following episodes as he is supposed to do according to the writers? |
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Post by castle88 on Nov 2, 2015 16:28:53 GMT -5
Just a quick note about the ratings in case some don't follow the stings discussion. I don't think the drop in numbers has anything to do with the show runners or the storyline. Castle's ratings have been basically the same for every episode this year. The premiere was only .1 higher in the demo and had a couple of hundred thousand more viewers. Those are smaller drop offs than in previous years. In fact, given the amount of people on line that don't like the story arc, I would have expected a big drop off. That has not happend. One other ratings point. The drop off in viewers is less important than the demo numbers. I follow the ratings on en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Castle_episodes. There the ratings go down after season 7. But do I miss something? I found them disturbing. I wonder what the ratings worldwide are. And regarding Castle..how do the actors think about the storyline? Has Nathan Fillion watched XX? How could he play the following episodes as he is supposed to do according to the writers? no you did not miss anything. I was trying to say that if the story arc was going to lead to lower ratings then there should have been a drop off after episode 8x02 or 8x03. That has not happened. Both Nathan and Stana have spoken positively about the storyline. Stana, I believe, discussed it with the writers prior to agreeing to signing for season 8. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2015 8:39:01 GMT -5
Yes that's right. She had a very enthusiastic tweet on her Twitter account about the plans offered by the new show runners . She signed late late due to her busy schedule to marry and run two films. It was not an exciting decision for her . I think that the absurd negativity & dark speculations from fans on various forums helped to leave Castle by (too) many.
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? He knows what Bracken said about her, he knows of Lokstat , he is himself tortured and was on the point of being shot dead and his wife knowing for ages, it is ridiculous that now he wants to win her love back. He knows her anyway.... Bad writing, bad planning and bad humor are now very common.