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Post by ProudTVJunkie on Oct 7, 2015 15:28:52 GMT -5
Hi All, It appears we all have some pretty strong feelings about Castle Season 8 so far. How about we share them directly with ABC. ABC has a web page for viewer comments. If enough people share their displeasure, maybe something will change…and if not, at least we know we tried. A few suggestions: -Write your own opinion in your own words. -Tell them what you’d like to see changed so that you can continue to enjoy the show. -Always be polite. I’m not here to tell anyone what to write. If you like this season, feel free to share that with the network. As for myself, I’d like to see: -Kate and Rick as a sexy, smart, fun, loving happily married couple. -Castle, Becket, Esposito and Ryan working as a team to solve quirky crimes. -Alexis to go back to college where she belongs and live her own life. -A change back to our light-heared, optimistic Castle. So far, I've found this season dark, disturbing and sometimes depressing. Here’s the link: abc.go.com/feedbackAnd you certainly don’t have to tell us what you write but I’d love to know how many of us send ABC a message. Let’s work on saving our Happy Castle Mondays!
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Post by marschg on Oct 7, 2015 18:29:32 GMT -5
Done
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Post by CastleFanGran on Oct 8, 2015 5:57:16 GMT -5
Thanks for the link PTVJ--and for how much you care and accomplish!!!
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Post by Castle vet on Oct 8, 2015 6:44:24 GMT -5
WThanks for the suggestion. My first reaction was to say "I'm done," but after over 7 years I can't do it without at least trying to affect change. I do believe that if enough viewers care enough to write, they will listen.
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Post by 1Lincoln40 on Oct 10, 2015 19:39:26 GMT -5
Hi everyone
Ok PTVJ now I'm really worried about the future of Castle if you of all people is making such a request. Would it also be possible for someone outside the USA to comment and am I right in assuming I would select ABC Programming?
I would also say that if after all the feedback that ABC must surely have received after that non event at the end of S6 they don't truly understand why most people watch Castle, they never will. That the new showrunners are talking the talking but not delivering.
B.x
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Post by castlefan8 on Oct 10, 2015 21:49:25 GMT -5
Hi everyone
Ok PTVJ now I'm really worried about the future of Castle if you of all people is making such a request. Would it also be possible for someone outside the USA to comment and am I right in assuming I would select ABC Programming?
I would also say that if after all the feedback that ABC must surely have received after that non event at the end of S6 they don't truly understand why most people watch Castle, they never will. That the new showrunners are talking the talking but not delivering.
B.x Ive already sent my comment in and I live in Canada. Got an email saying it was received. Hope everyone sends something in cause this is getting pretty sad...
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Post by shutterbug5269 on Oct 11, 2015 3:25:46 GMT -5
I have sent mine.
I agonized over every word of it, I don't know how much good it will do, but I sent it.
Hopefully ABC does something other than prompt another senseless explanation from Hawley & Winter.
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Post by ProudTVJunkie on Oct 11, 2015 11:35:39 GMT -5
My fear is that if we don't speak up, we are destined to an entire season of the Castle and Alexis PI team front and center. Even if they get Caskett back together, seeing Castle mostly paired with Alexis is not why I tune into Castle.
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Post by sylvia4949 on Oct 11, 2015 11:50:56 GMT -5
Done - from England - but I suspect it won't be of much use. Let's face it, it would take a major re-write to get this back on track soon!
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Post by ProudTVJunkie on Oct 11, 2015 12:44:33 GMT -5
Done - from England - but I suspect it won't be of much use. Let's face it, it would take a major re-write to get this back on track soon! I know that half of the season is already written but perhaps if they get enough feedback they can still save the back half. Either way, I'll feel better knowing that I tried.
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Post by shutterbug5269 on Oct 11, 2015 13:11:36 GMT -5
My fear is that if we don't speak up, we are destined to an entire season of the Castle and Alexis PI team front and center. Even if they get Caskett back together, seeing Castle mostly paired with Alexis is not why I tune into Castle. The Alexis thing doesn't bother me nearly so much as you. As a matter of fact I kinda like Molly getting to shine and her character not being trotted out as a broken doll in need of rescue. Molly's stronger more self assured stage presence is the only thing that keeps me watching right now. (sad, but true) At least her character hasn't taken three huge steps backward like some others we know of **Cough** Caskett **Cough cough** but it would be a lot more interesting and possibly less jarring to people like yourself I think, if Alexis' progression was balanced out by Caskett being together, not as a replacement for what we aren't getting from them.
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Post by ProudTVJunkie on Oct 11, 2015 14:04:16 GMT -5
My fear is that if we don't speak up, we are destined to an entire season of the Castle and Alexis PI team front and center. Even if they get Caskett back together, seeing Castle mostly paired with Alexis is not why I tune into Castle. The Alexis thing doesn't bother me nearly so much as you. As a matter of fact I kinda like Molly getting to shine and her character not being trotted out as a broken doll in need of rescue. Molly's stronger more self assured stage presence is the only thing that keeps me watching right now. (sad, but true) At least her character hasn't taken three huge steps backward like some others we know of **Cough** Caskett **Cough cough** but it would be a lot more interesting and possibly less jarring to people like yourself I think, if Alexis' progression was balanced out by Caskett being together, not as a replacement for what we aren't getting from them. Yes, maybe Alexis wouldn't bother me so much if it didn't feel like everything else had changed. I'm not knocking Molly. I have no problem with her performance or any of the rest of the cast. My problem is with the story. Last year Alexis was a college student and this season she's working as her father's partner in the PI business, going undercover and walking into crime scenes. It really makes no sense. I also think they are going over the top to prove to us she's an adult. Expanding her role gradually would have made more sense and been less jarring.
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Post by shutterbug5269 on Oct 11, 2015 19:17:12 GMT -5
The Alexis thing doesn't bother me nearly so much as you. As a matter of fact I kinda like Molly getting to shine and her character not being trotted out as a broken doll in need of rescue. Molly's stronger more self assured stage presence is the only thing that keeps me watching right now. (sad, but true) At least her character hasn't taken three huge steps backward like some others we know of **Cough** Caskett **Cough cough** but it would be a lot more interesting and possibly less jarring to people like yourself I think, if Alexis' progression was balanced out by Caskett being together, not as a replacement for what we aren't getting from them. Yes, maybe Alexis wouldn't bother me so much if it didn't feel like everything else had changed. I'm not knocking Molly. I have no problem with her performance or any of the rest of the cast. My problem is with the story. Last year Alexis was a college student and this season she's working as her father's partner in the PI business, going undercover and walking into crime scenes. It really makes no sense. I also think they are going over the top to prove to us she's an adult. Expanding her role gradually would have made more sense and been less jarring. This is the only thing that does make sense to me this season, as it builds on the conversation Alexis had with her father about finding her passion.it would appear she is taking time off from college to do just that. It is she seems to be more focused and motivated to being a PI than her dad is and she has found her life's calling. She's throwing her whole self into this like she does everything else.
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Post by castlefan8 on Oct 11, 2015 20:37:42 GMT -5
"Hawley and Winter have planned the season out, they know where they want the story to go, and for all the insistence that it’s been a bad idea or it’s ruining the show, they’ve gotten a good (if not equal) amount of feedback from people who like it or, at the least, are willing to see where it’s going. You also generally don’t want to cater to one particular group of fans who want to see ‘XYZ’ because for every one of those, there will be another person that’s unhappy about the path they convinced you to take or you’re gonna get a bunch of people who just don’t like the fact you abandoned a storyline halfway through. If you’re gonna be a show runner, you’ve gotta have the balls to stick to your guns and play it through unless the studio or the network come pay you a visit and tell you to fix it. Sometimes you are forced to drop something because of unforeseen circumstances, but by and large having someone just drop a storyline because fans don’t like it is a terrible decision and will only make things worse. And no, I don’t think they misunderstood or miscalculated at all. They’ve been very open with accepting that people were probably not going to like this storyline, but that they hope they’d at least be curious enough (or even angry enough, let’s be real) to stick around and see where it goes. They were well aware that they were and are playing with fire, but Hawley and Winter aren’t scared of the chance of getting burned. So, no, I don’t expect you’re gonna see them reevaluating the storyline or making any abrupt changes based on fan response. You also have to realize that by the time they break for Christmas they’re going to be on episode 8x13 or so, so even what you’d consider their lengthy break doesn’t coincide with the episode airdates. You wouldn’t see any change during the production’s winter hiatus until March."
This is from a blogger who kind of seems to have a bit of inside knowledge of all things Castle. They care so little about the fans it is sad. And if they think there are equal fans enjoying this storyline, they are very mistaken
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Post by shutterbug5269 on Oct 11, 2015 23:29:58 GMT -5
"Hawley and Winter have planned the season out, they know where they want the story to go, and for all the insistence that it’s been a bad idea or it’s ruining the show, they’ve gotten a good (if not equal) amount of feedback from people who like it or, at the least, are willing to see where it’s going. You also generally don’t want to cater to one particular group of fans who want to see ‘XYZ’ because for every one of those, there will be another person that’s unhappy about the path they convinced you to take or you’re gonna get a bunch of people who just don’t like the fact you abandoned a storyline halfway through. If you’re gonna be a show runner, you’ve gotta have the balls to stick to your guns and play it through unless the studio or the network come pay you a visit and tell you to fix it. Sometimes you are forced to drop something because of unforeseen circumstances, but by and large having someone just drop a storyline because fans don’t like it is a terrible decision and will only make things worse. And no, I don’t think they misunderstood or miscalculated at all. They’ve been very open with accepting that people were probably not going to like this storyline, but that they hope they’d at least be curious enough (or even angry enough, let’s be real) to stick around and see where it goes. They were well aware that they were and are playing with fire, but Hawley and Winter aren’t scared of the chance of getting burned. So, no, I don’t expect you’re gonna see them reevaluating the storyline or making any abrupt changes based on fan response. You also have to realize that by the time they break for Christmas they’re going to be on episode 8x13 or so, so even what you’d consider their lengthy break doesn’t coincide with the episode airdates. You wouldn’t see any change during the production’s winter hiatus until March." This is from a blogger who kind of seems to have a bit of inside knowledge of all things Castle. They care so little about the fans it is sad. And if they think there are equal fans enjoying this storyline, they are very mistaken y I would like to believe that, since Hawley & Winter were fully aware that they were playing with fire, that they would have had enough foresight (given how similar ideas went south the last couple seasons) to have contingency plans in place in to tweak at least the one plot point most likely to blow up in their faces. That would be the smart play, wouldn't it?
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