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Post by ProudTVJunkie on Aug 20, 2015 18:35:04 GMT -5
I always had the feeling that Castle believed that he was deluding himself at the end of season 2. That he had misread the situation and Kate didn't have similar feelings for him. Perhaps it's a discussion where that somehow comes up and Kate corrects him by explaining that she was in this with him even then. Only she waited too long, both of their communication skills were lacking and their timing ended up being very off.
Yes, I can see it being a 'what might have been' and 'I was an idiot' moment, but only for a moment. Now that they're married and in this together, I just think it would be nice for them both to see the past more clearly.
However, that's just my two cents...
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Post by shutterbug5269 on Aug 20, 2015 23:55:33 GMT -5
I always had the feeling that Castle believed that he was deluding himself at the end of season 2. That he had misread the situation and Kate didn't have similar feelings for him. Perhaps it's a discussion where that somehow comes up and Kate corrects him by explaining that she was in this with him even then. Only she waited too long, both of their communication skills were lacking and their timing ended up being very off. Yes, I can see it being a 'what might have been' and 'I was an idiot' moment, but only for a moment. Now that they're married and in this together, I just think it would be nice for them both to see the past more clearly. However, that's just my two cents... Dragging up the mistakes of the past and Opening up old wounds now that they are married isn't a good thing. I think if the writers were gonna have that come back up, they would have by now. "Murder He Wrote" or "Still" would have been the best times post season 3 premiere for her to drop that particular bomb and have it count for something. There is no way Kate could bring this up now and leave Rick feeling good about himself. Five years have gone by, their relationship is in the best place it has ever been and I can't think of any situation (outside of a very relationship destructive fight) where Kate throwing that in his face now would be a good idea. Would you want to have something stupid from your past, that has no bearing on your present relationship thrown in your face years after the fact? Kate finally telling Rick what his books really mean to her? Now that I could see happening, especially if Castle starts discounting his own value as a writer, or his place in her life. That is something she could tell him that would leave a satisfying feel-good outcome. |
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Post by ProudTVJunkie on Aug 21, 2015 9:44:30 GMT -5
I'm afraid we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one shutterbug5269 because it looks like we view this one differently. Besides, I admit that the odds of it happening are very slim.  |
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Post by shutterbug5269 on Aug 21, 2015 16:05:22 GMT -5
I'm afraid we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one shutterbug5269 because it looks like we view this one differently. Besides, I admit that the odds of it happening are very slim. There was a time when I would have wanted to see it too, believe me. Even though I saw it well after the fact. All through the whole 47 Seconds story arc, where Rick thought she didn't have feelings for him I wanted to see that come out. In or after After the Storm I wanted to see her admit that. During Murder He Wrote, or later in season five when Kate started having her doubts about their relationship I wanted to see it. In fact any time before their wedding took place, when their relationship was still fraught with uncertainty would have been good. I would have damned well rather seen it come up and be dealt with than that miserable excuse for a season 6 finale. But now? When everything is falling into place for them and that misunderstanding is no longer relevant? I think the statute of limitations on either Rick or Kate brining it up has passed. It's water under their bridge now. Now if somebody ELSE brings it up (Demming or some tabloid reprter) and they have to deal with it, that might be different. Because then Kate would be reacting to it, not inflicting pain and hurt on Rick intentionally. That would make sense. |
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Post by java on Aug 22, 2015 8:50:24 GMT -5
Relationships are complex. Attraction, feelings of love, and timing all come into play. I don't see a problem in sharing notes of what occurred, the "chase", the events, the joys, and the tears that eventually lead to a union. It's always fun and hilarious to look at how y'all started out in hindsight. If that past is used against you, perhaps the union is a mistake but I think Rick and Kate are adult enough to share a glimpse into their versions of events and how it all unfolded. I for one would love to see it.
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Post by ProudTVJunkie on Aug 22, 2015 13:14:13 GMT -5
How about an episode where Castle and Beckett babysit Sarah Grace and really talk about starting a family and how they would handle that along with Kate's career. I know we got a taste of this with baby Bennie/Cosmo but back then starting a family was more of a 'some day' discussion and I think they're getting to the point where they have to make a decision if that day is here or will be very soon.
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Post by shutterbug5269 on Aug 22, 2015 19:18:09 GMT -5
How about an episode where Castle and Beckett babysit Sarah Grace and really talk about starting a family and how they would handle that along with Kate's career. I know we got a taste of this with baby Bennie/Cosmo but back then starting a family was more of a 'some day' discussion and I think they're getting to the point where they have to make a decision if that day is here or will be very soon. Hell, I'd like to see them really sit down and talk about it even if they DON'T babysit Sarah Grace. Even if they decide to wait, at least they would have talked about it like grownups. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2015 18:23:33 GMT -5
Personally, I am an open book. And love words. I love actions more, but I love a good conversation. I would love them to be in a romantic setting, on a rooftop with nothing but themselves at night counts, and start talking about all that happened. I would love for Kate to say, yanno, I broke it off with Tom because I had changed my mind and decided to go with you to the Hamptons. And then watch Castle's face as he grasps what that means.
I'm a sappy romantic, and love when feelings are shared. That's really how you get to see and know a person deeply. And when they share from their heart, that is the biggest compliment. They trust you with their feelings, thoughts, and the essence of them. And I love that.
I don't see it/something like it happening either, but it could. The possibility, and hope, is always there.
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Post by shutterbug5269 on Aug 23, 2015 19:53:57 GMT -5
Personally, I am an open book. And love words. I love actions more, but I love a good conversation. I would love them to be in a romantic setting, on a rooftop with nothing but themselves at night counts, and start talking about all that happened. I would love for Kate to say, yanno, I broke it off with Tom because I had changed my mind and decided to go with you to the Hamptons. And then watch Castle's face as he grasps what that means. I'm a sappy romantic, and love when feelings are shared. That's really how you get to see and know a person deeply. And when they share from their heart, that is the biggest compliment. They trust you with their feelings, thoughts, and the essence of them. And I love that. I don't see it/something like it happening either, but it could. The possibility, and hope, is always there. I think it would be better, story wise if they have Demming show up and throw that tidbit in Castle's face, which prompts Kate to sit down with Castle in a quiet place and talk with him about it. To make things better for him. It just seems like a better lead in to that conversation. Mostly because I don't see any way Kate could bring it up now that wouldn't hurt him, he's carrying around enough guilt because of his disappearance and I don't see her wanting to add more. (It goes into his self esteem issues I pointed out in my other thread. He blames himself for things he shouldn't) But God help anyone else who does that to him. I'd hate to be Demming in that situation. Though maybe I just have this really extreme desire to see her rip Demming a new one. |
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Post by java on Aug 23, 2015 20:07:20 GMT -5
Personally, I am an open book. And love words. I love actions more, but I love a good conversation. I would love them to be in a romantic setting, on a rooftop with nothing but themselves at night counts, and start talking about all that happened. I would love for Kate to say, yanno, I broke it off with Tom because I had changed my mind and decided to go with you to the Hamptons. And then watch Castle's face as he grasps what that means. I'm a sappy romantic, and love when feelings are shared. That's really how you get to see and know a person deeply. And when they share from their heart, that is the biggest compliment. They trust you with their feelings, thoughts, and the essence of them. And I love that. I don't see it/something like it happening either, but it could. The possibility, and hope, is always there. I think it would be better, story wise if they have Demming show up and throw that tidbit in Castle's face, which prompts Kate to sit down with Castle in a quiet place and talk with him about it. To make things better for him. It just seems like a better lead in to that conversation. Mostly because I don't see any way Kate could bring it up now that wouldn't hurt him, he's carrying around enough guilt because of his disappearance and I don't see her wanting to add more. (It goes into his self esteem issues I pointed out in my other thread. He blames himself for things he shouldn't) But God help anyone else who does that to him. I'd hate to be Demming in that situation. Though maybe I just have this really extreme desire to see her rip Demming a new one. Except for the slight wrinkle that Tom Demming isn't a tool. Would love to see Tom and Castle get along, work a case, and in the process of protecting Kate and Castle, he makes the ultimate sacrifice. Then afterwards, Kate reveals what happened at the end of season 2. I'd watch that episode glued to my seat. |
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Post by shutterbug5269 on Aug 23, 2015 21:13:06 GMT -5
I think it would be better, story wise if they have Demming show up and throw that tidbit in Castle's face, which prompts Kate to sit down with Castle in a quiet place and talk with him about it. To make things better for him. It just seems like a better lead in to that conversation. Mostly because I don't see any way Kate could bring it up now that wouldn't hurt him, he's carrying around enough guilt because of his disappearance and I don't see her wanting to add more. (It goes into his self esteem issues I pointed out in my other thread. He blames himself for things he shouldn't) But God help anyone else who does that to him. I'd hate to be Demming in that situation. Though maybe I just have this really extreme desire to see her rip Demming a new one. Except for the slight wrinkle that Tom Demming isn't a tool. Would love to see Tom and Castle get along, work a case, and in the process of protecting Kate and Castle, he makes the ultimate sacrifice. Then afterwards, Kate reveals what happened at the end of season 2. I'd watch that episode glued to my seat. Tom would not necessarily have to be (or have been) a tool to be bitter that Kate dumped him bolt out of the blue (from his perspective) for Castle. That's human nature, part and parcel of male psychology. He might not even realize he was doing any real harm, but I could still see him lobbing that one the first chance he gets. Then after Kate takes him to task for it, regrets his actions. It would make for an interesting episode. I don't really think Josh was all that bad a guy either, but he likely wasn't happy about being dumped for Castle either. And make no mistake Tom was a real tool to Castle back then. All male and territorial. |
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Post by 1Lincoln40 on Sept 5, 2015 19:14:23 GMT -5
With all the great ideas here I guess what I am really hoping for the most is that the new showrunners don't just talk the talk as in they know that Rick & Kate are the heart and soul of the series but actually show them as that couple that a lot of fans are wanting to see. The couple that has serious conversations from time to time, are seen to hold hands or just cuddle. Just to do the things that couples do without thinking. And maybe, just maybe they will throw in a 'shut the front door' scene when we least expect it and without any kind of spoiler warning whatsoever. If that were to happen it would need to be at the end of the episode because, any time before that and I doubt I will remember anything else. I mean, am I the only one who has to make myself remember that 'shut the front door' is not the end of Always? Because by the time I remember I've switched off the dvd and can't be bothered to switch it back on just for those final few moments.
I'm also hoping that it's a successful season especially if this one really does prove to be the last. If it is, let it not repeat the end of 6 and destroy everything that has ever been enjoyed but leave fans with a stupid grin on their faces and boasting that this is the way you end a series.
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